Hi
1. If you have already taken the rebate for tax paid in US in the Indian income tax return, you cannot claim the refund now.
2. Sorry, but I'm not able to understand the query. Please elaborate.
Hi Team, I was in US for the months of 2016-JAN-1 to 2016-SEP-24 and i was paying taxes in US accordingly. I returned to India on 26-SEP-16 and till 31-MAR-17. Since i was defined as resident of India as i stayed in India for more than 182 days, i had to pay tax of 190000 which is based on the US income for the months of APR-16 to SEP-16 and Indian income from OCT to MAR. I got tax rebate of around 3 lakhs for the taxes i paid in US for APR to SEP months. My question is, now i am applying for US tax filing for 2016, 1. can i able to ask for tax refund for the months of APR to SEP ? 2. For 2016 US tax filing, they consider the salary & paid-taxes of Oct, Nov, Dec-16. In months of Oct, Nov, Dec i paid tax of only 14000 in India, but in month of Mar-17, they deducted 163000, totaling to 190000 for the FY 2016-17 in India. How can i communicate to US tax filing that i paid 190000 for the FY 2016-17, so that would be around 31000 for each month for OCT-16 to MAR-17. Else they are calculating like the income of 240000 for OCT, NOV, DEC-16, but paid-tax of only 14000 till Dec-16. thanks
Hi
1. If you have already taken the rebate for tax paid in US in the Indian income tax return, you cannot claim the refund now.
2. Sorry, but I'm not able to understand the query. Please elaborate.
Dear Sir,
For income tax filing in USA F.Y. is calendar year i.e. 01.01.2016-31.12.2016 and for India it is 01.04.2016-31.03.2017. While computing total income in India, global income earned during the period 01.04.2016-31.03.2017 will be considered and the rebate will be available of such income only irrespective of tax position in other country i.e tax payable or refundable in USA.
For US return filing, income will be considered from 01.01.2016-31.12.2016, taxes paid during this period will be considered only. You can claim 31000*3=93000 tax rebate in the US return filing, for which you can submit the TDS certificate to the US authorities. Deduction of TDS of Rs.1,60,000 in the month of March 2017 has no relevance. The only requirement is TDS claimed by you in US return filing should be actually deducted by the Indian income tax authorities.
Need clarification the below point
Deduction of TDS of Rs.1,90,000 is after considering global income and US tax paid or only six months income. According to me your six months income would be 4,80,000 on which small amount of tax would be levied.
Thanks
Hi,
The issue is because of difference in the accounting years in India and US. While US follows Calendar year (Jan-Dec), India has Apr-Mar as the financial year.
I don't think you will be able to claim refund of US taxes as you have already taken the benefit when filing the India return.
Regards,
Nikhil.
Dear Sir,
Calculate the proportionate amount of tax for the period from Oct 16 to Dec 16 i.e. 1,90,000*2,40,000/4,80,000= Rs.95,000 and you can claim the amount in US return filing. The HR department should have deducted the TDS on monthly basis which could make it easier for you to substantiate the amount during assessment.
Thanks
Hi Lakshita, Vivek, im elaborating the second question as below... i returned to India on 26-Sep-16. Since then i was paying Indian income tax on my income for the months from October-16 to March-17. For the months of Oct to Dec, my income was 290000 & the tax paid was 14000 for these 3 months in total. In the month of March-2017, they calculated my total stay in India as > 182 days, so they included my US income also in the total income for the FY 2016-17 which is totaling to 22 lakhs. In this 22 lakhs, 17 lakhs were US taxable income from APR-2016 to SEP-2016 and aroud 5 lakhs were my Indian income from OCT-16 to MAR-17. In the month of March-17, they deducted 163000 as the remaining income tax calculating the total global income plus Indian income. So the total tax i paid in India till Mar-2017 for the FY 2016-2017 was 190000. But the Indian income tax paid for the months of Oct,Nov,Dec-16 was only 14000. To summarize as below I paid US taxes in US from JAN-16 to SEP-16 every month. Indian income from OCT-16 to DEC-16 > 290000 Indian income tax for OCT, NOV, DEC-16 > 14000 Indian income from OCT-16 to MAR-17 > 480000 Total paid Indian income tax from OCT16 to MAR-17 > 190000 Indian income tax for ONLY MAR-17 month > 163000 My Question is, while applying for US tax filing for 2016, how can I communicate that even though I paid only 14000 Indian tax for my Indian income of 290000 for Oct, Nov, Dec-16 months, actually I paid 190000 for the total FY2016-17, which equates to around 31000 per month from OCT-16 to MAR-17. If I can't do that, the US tax filing calculation would be considering my 3 months INDIA income + ONLY 14000 Indian tax paid for the months of Oct, Nov, Dec-16 , which is the end of the 2016 calendar year for US. So I would be getting less returns from US tax filing. My other question is, DO I need to mention that I paid this much tax in India & I took this much FTC, while US tax filing for 2016 OR I can file like normal filing way which shows, the 9 month US income & 9 months US taxes & 3 months Indian Income & 3 months Indian tax, that’s it ? Or any other possibility ? Thank you very much for your expert suggestions and prompt help.
Dear Sir,
How much is the tax paid in USA? Also if possible can you share the details of tax calculation sheet maintained by your HR as we can get the figure of US tax paid from that sheet.
While filing the ITR in India, you can claim the benefit of US taxes in the below proportion.
Total Tax in India*foreign income/Total income
While filing US return, you have to check the formula and calculate the total tax for the whole year 2016 and calculate the indian tax in proportion to the Indian income.
Thanks
Without proper review of documents, it is very difficult to understand the facts like this.
Please show the TDS which actually related to the months of October to December, irrespective of the month of deduction.
Also, an expert with complete knowledge of US tax laws can guide you in a better way.
It is very difficult to comment based on the input you have provided.
I will need all the specific documents to study and come to a conclusion.
Also I am not very sure about the US tax laws and you may want to check with your HR in US to help you with this.
regards,
Nikhil.
Hi,
Please let me know are you resident of USA also as per US law and DTAA?
If yes, you can claim foreign tax credit for the taxes paid in India.
Otherwise, you claim credit in India for taxes paid in USA
Please feel free to call/ revert in case you need more clarity.
Thanks and regards
Abhishek Dugar
CA CS B.Com
hi Abhishek, I was in US from Nov 2014 to 24-SEP-2016. So for the calendar year 2016, i was in US, close to 9 months, which qualifies me as a US resident for tax purpose. Pls let me know ur suggestions...
Although I'm not fully aware about US tax laws, but as far as I know, you will have to fill Form 1116 for claiming tax credit which words as "tax paid or accrued". So, you can calculate actual Indian taxes for the months Oct-Dec and show tax paid/ accrued in India in US tax return and claim credit.
Without review of documents, is not possible to advise accurately.
It is advisable to visit consultancy firm having good exposure in US laws.